Patent Cracker Review, Quorn Gambling Offer – Save Your Money
Price: £188 Per Month
A review of a mailing, a letter received by Quorn called Patent Cracker, which is a tipping service of an old school variety.
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Today in the post I received a mailshot from Quorn (140 St. Vincent Road, Gosport, Hampshire, PO12 4RF) with a product offering called ‘Patent Cracker‘, with what appears to be a tipster offer.
Now a little bit of research on them confirms my early doubts, and it is quite easily the quickest decision to avoid them I have ever written about.
Bascially the letter headline goes like this:
- “8 Saturdays Free Trial”
- “Massive Profits From Small Stakes”
- “Latest – Last Month £3,960 Profit to £5 Stakes”
Review Contents
What is Patent Cracker by Quorn?
Well the sales letter looks like it was written by a 12 year old (honestly, even a 12 year old would probably be able to produce something of a higher quality with basic word processing skills), and that is no exaggeration. There are words missing, punctuation errors and more; which immediately caught my attention.
When I first read it, I was immediately catapulted back 10 years when such sales letters used to land through the post without a lot of thought on persuation placed into them.
You know the type, with insulting statements about “get rich, never work again” type of rubbish, and this is the same.
What is strange is that I can imagine that quite a bit of money has been spent on mailing lists, printing and postage, so why they wouldn’t even think about putting some professional copywriting together is a mystery, as surely the additional expense would be recovered by potential sales.
The letter by Quorn is written in a rather large typeface, which smacks of playing on the emotions in a rather assuming way, the assumption I am guessing is that gamblers receiving this mailshot have all lost money in the past and are looking for saviours to point them in the right direction.
I think with matched betting and the likes, that assumption is not correct these days, because very many people are now making profits from bookmakers when in the past it was obviously more difficult to do so. Matched betting changed the way many now perceive making a profit, instead of just using, and testing what tipsters had to offer.
OK Let’s get right into what is being offered, and the review. This will be fairly quick and short unfortunately, because the research we have quickly done have found previous offers from the same outfit that did not produce successful results for their participants, although it was a very similar offer.
What is Quorn/Patent Cracker Offering?
The claims made on the Patent Cracker mailing states that the service is being put together by three betting professionals:
- ML Harrington
- Ryan Hartley
- KP Hawke
And it is also claimed that all three of them have had full page advertisements in the following publications over the last 30 years:
- The Racing Post
- Weekender
- Racing and Football Outlook
The mailing does not go into detail about what the advertisements offered, or the success rate of the products advertised, but the service for Patent Cracker is as follows:
Each Saturday, each of the ‘betting professionals’ will pick a horse each from their connections which will form part of this ‘patent’ service, and buyers will gain access to such information via a hotline telephone number, but only if you agree to test the ‘free incredible once only opportunity’ to join the UK’s top 3 professional team’
Yes, that is exactly how it is worded on the mailing.
The rest of the Quorn mailing is a series of ‘convincers’ to try and part you from your money, including statements like:
- “We really do believe that you have found the best racing team of all time”
- “Making money couldn’t be easier”
- “Give us the chance to restore your confidence in horse racing”
- “Massive Profits are being made week, after week”
The page also makes the point that the betting will only take place on a Saturday, and that you will be receiving the 3 tips on a Saturday morning which only take you minutes to put on, and then bank the profits.
Quorn state their 5 Good Reasons To Join Patent Cracker as Follows:
- Fantastic tax-free income
- No expensive phone calls
- No need for a large betting bank
- Free trial for 8 Saturdays
- High class information from professionals
The claimed results are £10,200 profit made so far in 2017, and £46,395 profit made in 2016 to £5 stakes, which sounds highly unlikely if I am being totally honest.
How Much is Quorn’s Patent Cracker?
The claim is that they will give you 8 Saturdays for free (8 days testing that is), but the standing order that comes with the mailing states that you can pay for the following, should you decide to do so:
- Get 8 free Saturdays plus 1 year for £695
- Get 8 free Saturdays plus 2 years £895
- Pay monthly for £188 per month
Expensive by any standards, and I think what is happening here, is that they are playing the numbers game with the mailshot.
The usual numbers game will go something like this. Let’s say they have sent 40,000 mailings, there will be a percentage who will take up the offer, and a percentage who decide to take up the paid options, some in advance for the year, and some monthly.
Those that take the trial, there will be a portion of those that make a profit initially, who will then receive follow up communications to pay for the year/monthly, and those that are not so successful will probably vanish anyway and avoid future comms from the outfit.
Peter Webb from Betangel compiled a video recently where he explained this type of offer in far more detail, and how such mailings are playing the numbers game mentioned, and it is a very interesting approach to making a profit from those sending the mailings in the first place.
Here is how Peter explained this type of offer:
Conclusion on Patent Cracker from Quorn
I would not touch this with a dirty stick. Seriously, that type of advertising is playing on the gullible in a big, big way, and the advertising on the mailing is shoddy at best, and put together very quickly in the hope of making a quick buck – for them.
By all means if you really want to, then try the free offer, but as with anything regarding gambling and tipsters, 8 days (8 free Saturdays) will never be a long enough period to judge the validity of any racing tipsters – especially when they are asking for such huge sums of money in advance based on such short testing.
I would seriously not advise you sending any money in the post for this Patent Cracker offer.
If you have tested any of Quorns offers in the past, then it would be great to hear from you in the comment section.
Hello Daniel
Can you assist me please, are the 3 tipsters Harrington, Hartley and Hawke mentioned in the literature from Patent Cracker still active. Also who/what are Quorn, can’t find a website for Patent Cracker either?
Would appreciate any information you could provide.
Many thanks, Regards
Alastair MacDonald
Hello Alastair, There was no website on the lierature that arrived in the post, just a standing order mandate that they wanted people to send in.
Quorn are the company/business behind it, and they have sent offers behind it before.
Regarding the tipsters, they have been around a while but not a great deal of recent information on them to be honest,
Best Wishes,
Dan
Unfortunately, I gave this a go. In the 8 weeks, it regularly produced one or two winners out of three but with short odds, three winners one week would have been needed to make a profit. This elusive week never happened so I made a loss overall.
The big {defamatory content removed} is at the end of the trial. I rang to cancel my subscription before they took payment but was greeted with an answer phone message saying they couldn’t access the standing orders and it would be up to me to cancel it with the bank. However, they didn’t set up the standing order until the day they took the first payment, leaving no time to cancel it.
Just got this rubbish a day or two back. Long time since I saw such shoddy sh…
As some of their claims are false I shall be forwarding the whole set of papers to Action Fraud.
May I also please send a copy of your excellent description of them?
Hello Arnold,
Not a problem,
Best Wishes,
Dan
Hi, Just as I thought when I read the flier. The first thing I noticed is that this bloke claims to have been doing this for the last ten years. Hmmm, He lives in Gosport, St. Vincent Road and the current price of houses there is around £150K. I checked it because I live fifteen minutes from that slum area. I don’t think we need say any more do you?
THIS man who use the name of JAMES QUORN is a man who real name is VICTOR JAMES PENFOUND – he was subjected to a ASA investigation several years ago. He used to send out brochures claiming to be involved with ALAN CARFAX but the only advise I can give people is to remember — NOBODY know what will win races, if we did there would be no Bookmakers still in business.
God Bless,
DAVE YOUNGMAN
FURTHER to my article yesterday JUNE 11th.
JAMES QUORN or VICTOR JAMES PENFOUND ass he really is, has operated for many years now from GOSPORT. He used to claim to be involved with tipping people named ALAN CARFAX and MARTIN WELLS. He try to get people to take out standing orders at the Bank.
ALAN CARFAX, MARTIN WELLS, RJ FRANCIS, GERALD SWAINE were all the same person, JOHN BLAKE used those names many years ago, he died a few years ago now.
JAMES QUORN-VICTOR JAMES PENFOUND was the subject of an advertising standars authority investigation several years ago, he had sent out brochurs making claims of tipping a host of big priced winners but was unable to prove it to be true, the ASA instructed him not to continue to make claims in brochures that he could not substantiate.
Thanks,
DAVE YOUNGMAN
MORNING EVERYONE
HAS any of you ever had dealings with a tipster known as THE INFORMER.
God Bless,
DAVE YOUNGMAN
Just received the latest mailshot from Quorn – this time it’s a Tim Gresham,and his opening gambit starts ‘ you may never have heard of me’; quite right that’s probably because there’s no such person!
This time it’s the Saturday Super Yankee and claims an eye watering £156,395 profit in the last 3 years to £2 stakes. Better still the mailshot says ‘reports suggest I was responsible for a $50 million dollar win on the Hong Kong races – No comment!!’ No that’s right because you weren’t or you wouldn’t be flogging this latest rubbish from your non des res in Gosport!
I’ve just received a similar flyer from Tim Gresham claiming to be an agent for Quorn.
Same address 140 St. Vincent Road, Gosport, Hants.
The usual b/s £20,000 guaranteed etc. etc.
As mentioned by previous reviewers, a 12 year old could compose a better flyer.
Missed words, incorrectly spelled words, poor punctuation etc makes me wonder if this guy is even British.
My advice…STEER WELL CLEAR!!
Received some junk mail from this mob today and believe me it was junk, both in terms of quality and claims. One of his offers is SUPER YANKEE under the name of TIM GRESHAM. Many years ago around 4/ I got tips from a Tim Gresham, a Saturday Yankee, they were the worst tips I ever received I don’t think he ever gave a single winner let a loan a Yankee! I also see names such as ML Harrington, Harrington used to send out Saturday doubles back in the 1980s and 90s and was a reasonable performer at that time normally at least one of his horses would win. He would send out a letter on a Thursday containing the horses names, the riders, a gallops report etc. Generally most tipsters are dodgy I did get good tips over the years Danny Bloor and Matthew Thole were good at one stage but the latter ended up doing time for some tipping scam! The problem is the bad ones remain bad and the better ones get gready and introduce more and more services.
Received the slightly reworked version a week ago, now using the name Tim Gresham but otherwise the same.Given that he gives bank account details and address, why cant he be shut down ?
Hi received a flyer today for Va Va Voom racing system for £12,000. This from the same company Quorn.
Just received the va ba voom offer In view of their past interest in him I shall pass it on to the FSA
I just received a Letter from Time Gresham, telling me all about how he has the majic touch when it comes to horse racing, so glad i read youe comments on the man, otherwise i may have taken him up on his offer, well Done. 5/5 !
Yes,I tried him,very moderate.Alex Gorrie is another poor tipster.
Today I received it I read all cr*p idea whenever who person. Ah I see here comments. Who took my name and address. Nosy!
Now I have sport telegram useful tips and chat come from Twitter. Low cost per month.
Received a brochure today from these characters,new sc*m American Dream System
Straight into my bin
Can’t believe some people fall for these get rich quick schemes
Regards Maurice
QUORNN arrived today!
one flyer about an American Tipping System originally sold for $30000 now available at the bargain! price of £895 (alleged profits £292280 over 10 years, then TIM GRESHAM flyer (who is he???) bigbuzz super yankee monster bets for £188 a month
Hi Team,
Joined Quorn about a month ago to try out the Saturday Super Yankee system and paid the discounted first payment of £4 on 16th January but have not received any instructions as yet.
Please expedite a.s.a.p.
Many thanks,
Richard
Hello,
I received the same Tim Gresham letter from same address about the Super Yankee going to put it in the bin.I have been receiving different offers from this address same company in the past forty years.