Tony Langley`s Daisho Trading System Review - Another Masterclass From Tony?

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Tony Langley`s Daisho Trading System Review – Another Masterclass From Tony?

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Price: £1297 Gold Option

Yet another training course from Tony Langley, Daisho football trading. Hot on the heals of his last trading offering, does this new product stack up? Please bookmark this page for full review updates.

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Over the last few days we have had a fair few emails, and comments about Tony Langley’s new Daisho Football Trading System, again, promoted by Tim Lowe from Waverley.

Now on the back of Tony’s last product, Football Hedging, which generated a lot of interest on this very website, it becomes obvious that a review on the new Daisho offering will be equally beneficial to those searching for the trading system.

At this point I have to really mention what happened with the hedging system that Tony last offered, because although this website reviewed it, the attention it received was not just based around our review, and even after it closed the doors to new members this website continued to receive very many emails and questions around ‘when was Tony opening the doors again’.

Unfortunately, the product did not re-open, and from what I can gather the majority of the early members are still on the course and doing very well, and this is why I feel this new offering could be of interest to those who didn’t manage to get in last time, as although this is a different product, I am told that the principles are similar, BUT have been improved upon and with some added extras.

The Product Review

Product Name: The Daisho Football Trading System

Offered By: Waverley Media / Tim Lowe / Tony Langley

Price: £1,297 – Three options available.

Where to Buy: Daisho Information  (Read the review first)

What You Get (as advertised):

  • You’ll get a full demonstration of the system in action showing actual trades in real time; solid proof that not only does it work but you can also do this yourself; AND an opportunity to receive extraordinary training that could enable you to earn an estimated £2,250 to £3,000 tax-free every week with just a little enthusiasm and with let’s face it, not a great deal of effort! Obviously there is some learning and practicing to be done, as with anything really, but with the power of compounding you have the opportunity to increase your profits month, on month which is where you can then look to take an income from the profits you have made.
  • You’ll be given a folder that contains an easy to use ‘standalone’ system that is yours to keep regardless of whether you decide to continue with the main Daisho System or not. This folder will enable you to walk away knowing that you can make a guaranteed tax-free £500 within 30 days and could easily carry on making £200 to £400 each month thereafter, just for finding out what this is all about!
  • You’ll be shown all the simple steps of the Daisho System one at a time from start to finish (… backed up with comprehensive written instructions) so you can copy everything yourself and start earning a fabulous new income as soon as you leave the meeting.
  • You’ll be shown the special websites that Tony uses to make his match selections and how you can use them to get the most out of them.
  • You’ll get the free software that alerts you to an event that requires attention during a football match so that you don’t have to sit and watch the game if you don’t want to enabling you to still make money while getting on with other things!
  • You’ll be given a unique step-by-step trading plan that is explicitly designed to take you right from the beginning all the way through to the point where, providing you follow it to the letter, you can genuinely EXPECT to be making an estimated £2,250 to £3,000 a week tax-free within just 6 to 7 months from now!
  • You’ll be getting direct access to Tony for ongoing personal support via an exclusive member’s only helpdesk where he’ll be delighted to answer any questions you may have. Remember he will still be trading himself and so he’s also planning weekly webinars to show YOU exactly what he’s doing and he’ll even be making himself available for one-to-one personal help should you need it.
  • And finally You’ll be getting properly looked after at my expense (Tim Lowe) in beautiful surroundings so you can really relax and enjoy the whole event!

Let’s start with who is actually offering the product.

Waverley Media

This website has completed a few reviews now on the products that have come out of the Waverley Media stable, and usually very positive. You can read our review on Waverley here.

Tim Lowe has been generating home business opportunities for many years, far more than most and chances are that you are familiar with his name, and what he does. As with many vendors online, most will have positive and negative reviews, but what has always impressed me about Tim and his set up, is that he is straight to the point, and approachable to his customers.

In fact Tim himself has helped his own customers on this very website, and the Waverley set up have always been helpful when we have forwarded customer questions. So as far as who is behind the Daisho trading product, we have no concerns there.

Waverley’s products almost always come with very good guarantees and give the option of customer ‘opt out’ if they require, but as with all vendors, terms and conditions must always be read, and adhered to, naturally.

What Is The Daisho Trading System?

Let’s start the review.

You will either have received a mailing through the post or an email containing all the details around the Daisho Trading System, that was sent from Waverley Media, similar to the image on the on this page below, which is an invitation to a 2 day workshop that will teach you exactly how to implement the way Tony Langley is profiting from this knowledge.

The most prominent wording on the offer/promo is ‘NO OBLIGATION’, which where Tim Lowe is concerned usually means a generous money back guarantee.

The main headline claims to demonstrate a brand new system that will enable the user the thrill of winning an estimated £2,250 – £3,000 every week without any fear of losses.

Daisho Football Trading System

Those weekly profits will be when you have started with a low betting bank, and then compounded your winnings over a period of months, details of which I will go into further down the review.

Also on the page is a guarantee that even if you decide that the product is not for you, then you will be given access to a standalone system that will guarantee you a minimum of £500 a week in 30 days or less, just for trying the product out, and that is yours to keep no matter what you decide. In Waverley’s words:

“… however, just for coming along I’ll hand you a folder which contains instructions for a ‘standalone’ part of the system, totally FREE OF CHARGE, which I personally GUARANTEE will, on its own, make you a minimum of £500 tax-free in 30 days or less … AND could easily carry on making you £200 to £400 each month thereafter!! This will be yours to keep, no matter what!”

A generous offer, as always from the Waverley stable.

Tony Langley – The Daisho System ‘Teacher’

Tony Langley is well known now (this website has certainly heard about him, as we recommended his latest product without hesitation), so there are no real fears regarding his credibility, as Tony is somebody who has made well over £250,000 from the Betfair exchanges which you may have read on our previous review, and now has very many followers in his own right, so that should give you confidence for a start.

The first thing you will notice about Tony, whether from meetings with him, watching his videos or actually receiving support emails is that he is a very friendly guy, and extremely helpful to those who are on his courses, and comes across just like you or me, an average guy,  although he has taught himself how to make money from the betting exchanges, and as very many people have tried to achieve similar, usually over many years then these subjects always create a lot of interest – hence the workshop.

The 2 Day Daisho Workshop

The crux of the offer is a 2 day workshop at a venue in Horsley Park, in Surrey, where Tony Langley is going to teach you exactly how to follow the procedures on how he makes his profits from Betfair using his new and improved football trading systems.

Horsley Park Trading Venue

I always feel that when a workshop is on offer it adds some credibility to what is being offered because when the person teaching you to follow what he does is right there in your face, with nowhere to hide, then the realism of what you are investing in becomes apparent, and this also gives the ‘audience’ the opportunity to ask questions and receive a live reaction.

This is what you will receive from Tony Langley at the workshop:

  • See him personally demonstrate how profitable this system is using actual trades in real time…
  • Watch him reveal every detail of what makes it so special…
  • Hear him explain WHY it’s so different from anything you may have seen before…
  • Understand just how simple it is to operate and why it doesn’t require any special skills or technical abilities…
  • And ultimately prove to you that YOU can trade in exactly the SAME way that he does…

In the words of the actual website:

“In order to prove how profitable this system is he’s agreed to PERSONALLY demonstrate it using ACTUAL TRADES in front of a small invited audience on a purely NO OBLIGATION basis and reveal the ingenious secret that makes it so special and ultimately WHY it’s so different from anything you may have seen before!”

On the website Tony states that he has improved his trading systems even further, and made things even easier for people to learn than ever before.

Tony is still involved in the football markets as this is what he knows to work extremely well in the past, and Daisho is also based around football trading. The main basis of what Tony teaches is based around never losing money, and always making a profit no matter what the outcome of the event.

The other main side of what Tony teaches is around increasing your betting bank using the ‘compounding’ effect, which means that when you actually make a profit, instead of spending it on your weekly takeaway, you reinvest the profits to create an even bigger betting bank in which to trade with, thus increasing future profits, and this makes a lot of sense no matter how you look at it.

This is what the website claims Tony has now created:

daisho claims

As Tony already knew how to profit from the football trading markets, I would think it makes sense not to abandon what he has taught previously (obviously), but to improve upon what was already working, whilst at the same time improving the strategies and adding new material in a way that users can make a profit far easier than every before, and the above states the same.

There were a few people claiming on the last product that it could sometimes be slightly complicated, and in-depth, and I would have thought that he has now taken that on board with this new Daisho trading offer. It makes perfect sense to do that doesn’t it.

How Does Daisho Make a Profit?

Basically, as touched on above, Tony trades in a way that ensures that he does not make a loss on any football trade he participates in, and he does this by covering all the angles and eventualities to make sure that no matter what happens, no money is every lost, or shouldn’t be if all the instructions are followed.

The website also claims, which I think is valid to state here, that on Tony’s previous product, based on the trades he gave his members to follow, in all 559 of them over the space of almost 2 years, not a single one of them was a losing trade, and this was proofed to his members, and continues to be the case.

On the previous product that Tony launched, he proofed to his members all the trades he made, even showing some video proof of the profits that were made, and in the 20 months since it launched (still going strong) a consistent overall profit of 65% return on investment was made as a monthly average, and that was before compounding profits:

tony langley profits

Compounding the profits as I already mentioned would have increased the betting bank exponentially, as you can see from the following screenshot, where if you had started with just a £300 betting bank, this would then have been worth well over £10,000 after 7 months of following Tony’s strategies:

daisho compounding profits

Tony has proved that he has not had any losing trades, with screenshots, and some video content, and therefore if you are following his advice, and taking all the required steps, then your results should be the same.

For example if a football match is between Arsenal and Tottenham, then you know that the score will either end 0-0, or that there will at some stage be goals scored.

And on the betting exchanges (Betfair) you can bet on the result of a game, so even if there are no goals, or goals scored you can make a profit if you get this right, and as you are not limited to single bets on Betfair, you can of course bet on multiple outcomes to put the possibility of a profit in your favour.

This is exactly what Tony does; he covers the angles to ensure that a profit is made.

What is the win ratio on Daisho Trading?

On the website Tony claims to ensure that in 97% of the trades that a decent profit is made, and that in the remaining 3% a breakeven is generated or a small profit:

daisho trading profit

Obviously not every single trade is going to go your way, and that there will be a small variable no matter what system you use, but 97%? An amazing stat which can no doubt be backed up to all concerned.

Making money from Betfair has always been about making more money from your wins than you losses, but in this instance there are no losses, just wins and a small amount of break evens.

90 Day Money Back Guarantee

Waverley Media are offering a full 90 days risk free trial on the Daisho Trading System, in that providing you follow the rules offered by Tony Langley, and execute accordingly, then you should not make a profit as advertised then you are free to claim on the 90 day money back guarantee.

Also, as part of the guarantee, and just for going along to one of the 2 day workshops, if you then decide at 3pm that the system is not for you, and wish you back out, then you will receive a complete refund of all monies paid, but still get to keep the system that can make you £500 in the first 30 days, as mentioned above.

At the end of the sales page, Tim states that as he was writing his offer (on the 21st May) he asked Tony for a bang up to date trade and profit proof, to which Tony kindly made his latest trade available to him, showing how he had just made £1050.08 that very day:

tony_langley_daisho_trade

Impressive from Tony for sure, as he knows what to do.

Conclusion on Daisho Football Trading Method

Tony Langley has a very good reputation, and from what I can read into he has taken his previous football hedging football methods and added new and improved features that make it far easier to implement – plus added some further techniques on how to make profit.

On the previous product which was widely reported on this very website, we gave a 4.5 star rating to the product, and I am going to give the same on this review purely based on reputation, who is teaching it, and previous results. I can amend this rating accordingly based on feedback and eventual course materials, although I doubt it will be required for me to do so.

I am personally looking at going to one of the workshops potentially, so that I can add more detail and relevance to the review.

I will of course update this review accordingly as and when I receive and learn further information.

Daisho System Update 30th May 2017

It has now been confirmed that the Daisho Trading System is indeed an updated, and improved version of the previous football hedging systems by Tony. The same principles apply, but with Tony’s latest developments, which are said to make the systems easier to use, and the performance is also said to have increased.

Also, the ‘free system – £500 in 30 days or less’ given to those who decide to attend is nothing to do with Bonus Bagging type strategies, but a simple Betfair only method of trading that will be given to those attending the workshops.

This review (and the Daisho trading product) is for those who do not have the previous hedging product; missed out when the last product closed it’s doors, or who are interested in profiting from football trading.

The review will be updated as, and when new information is available, and therefore it is advisable to bookmark this page, as already we are receiving a lot of emails from our regular readers about this product launch, which is why we created the review, and therefore we can answer questions (and update) in one place for all concerned.

Update: Daisho Home Study Course 2nd Aug 2017

We have just got word that the Tony Langley Daisho Trading System has now been launched as a home study course/programme, so that those who wish to join, and maybe who could not make it to the recent live workshops can invest in the home study demonstration course instead.

I have taken a fairly detailed look at the sales page, and comparing to the last workshop offer, the key ingredients seem to be there as well, so the same training is offered just as a home course.

daisho Home Study Programme

This is a good idea, as based on my inbox I know a fair few people could not make the dates for the workshops, and let’s be honest not everyone has the time or inclination for a workshop and actually prefer to study at home.

So I like that Waverley has gone down this route, similar to the last course by Tony, as it gives people the chance to go through the course at their own speed.

I myself would prefer to go through courses at home also, because I like to let things sink in at my pace instead of somebody else’s 🙂

The online programme version of Daisho is broken down into three packages from what I can gather:

gold daisho package

Daisho Gold Package

platinum daisho package

Daisho Platinum Package

diamond daisho package

Daisho Diamond Package – Includes a One Day Workshop

I actually received a lot of emails about this product when it launched as a workshop, many asking if I knew what the free bonus was bonus bagging, which Tim lowe confirmed on the comments section on this page that it is not, but rather a standalone system for trading Betfair.

It is also pleasing to that the free bonus is included with the home course as well, which I am sure many who were waiting are also pleased with.

daisho free bonus

I couldn’t make the workshops myself due to commitments, but I am very tempted to try the home study course version, so I will update with more details shortly once I have given my piggy bank a shake.

Well, just to update the review, I have convinced my better half that it was a worthwhile investment, as well as in the nature of ‘work’ and have gained access the the home study course version of the system.

Home Study Course Contents

Before entering the members area, you are met with a 45 minute video from Tony Langley and Tim Lowe, where Tony explains in detail how a profit can be made without losing any money. This instruction was not new to me, but for anybody starting this who has never traded before then this will definitely be beneficial, it is a layman’s term video that gets straight to the crux of what the course is about.

Once you have entered the members area, then you are presented with all the course content as advertised, including the modules (each system), and the How To videos that teaches you all you need to know to make the profits.

Daisho Membership Area Login

I have not started on the modules yet, but on first impressions they are very detailed.

The Course Modules

The modules are detailed in order, and it is probably wise to go through them in the order they are given, as I suspect there is a reason for the order they are placed in. Maybe not, but I will go down them from 1 down to 6.

Daisho Modules

The course modules (each system) is broken down into it’s respective area, and with a course of action to be taken during the learning phase which concludes with a test of the system.

Each module is broken down into it’s own sections, and on each section are a series of videos where Tony is explaining in depth how they work, why they work, and how to implement them. I have only skimmed over them at this stage.

You can see the course progress column below, which is a handy little feature for going through the course, gives it some structure I think.

home study course progress

And as with many courses I have seen there is also a section after each individual Daisho module that you can tick/check off so that you know you have completed the training for each system, otherwise I can imagine many getting confused as to which system they are currently learning, so makes a lot of sense to do that.

training videos progress

The Free Daisho Standalone Betfair System

The first section I looked at, which I suspect many will look at once they enter the Daisho course is the free standalone Betfair system which is given to all new members just for taking a look at the course.

This free system is advertised as being able to make you a profit of a minimum of £200 to £400 in 30 days or less, and looks good.

Note to readers. I am obviously not going to explain how it works (so please do not email asking what it contains, or how it works, as I know some readers will ask).  The system content is only for those who took the decision to invest; but just to give you an idea, it is simplistic, with sound reasoning behind it – and looks fun and easy too.

First impressions of this free system? There are 4 detailed videos which explain a system that is claimed has a 93% success rate, and looking through the first 2 videos I can definitely see why. It looks excellent, and something I may be testing over the coming weekend, time permitting.

It is a set and forget system, so once the selections are made, no further action is required, which I know will be attractive to many.

If this free system works as it suggests, and how it is explained then just having this system will be worth the investment of the course by itself! And I have had some emails from readers who were on the original workshops to say that it is working very well for them, so I am actually quite excited to try it.

free standalone betfair system

Having seen the previous course Tony put together, I must say that this one does look more streamlined and straight to the point. It is advertised as being easier to understand than previously, and it does look that way from what I have seen today, and last night when I gained access to the contents.

Impressive so far.

Obviously I will be taking the time required to digest all the training over the coming weeks, but first impressions are a well laid out members area, all the systems in place, with the free standalone system looking excellent, and valid.

Daisho Home Study Programme Result 9th August

I just wanted to document on the review that I started the first trade today. It was based on the method one of the strategies taught on the course, it was routine and made around a 10% profit, which is obviously pleasing.

One aspect I do like is that Tony is constantly advising to practice before you start using real cash. Although the main reason for updating the review was to alert readers to the emails that Tony Langley sent before and during the game to help members.

9th August 2017

Here was the sequence of emails Tony sent today for this trade:

  • 16:52pm – Email sent with the game selection, which was the game between Spartak Moscow and Arsenal, kick off 5:30pm UK time, explaining why that game was chosen (it was a method one game selection, as stated above), and exactly what to do to trade the game.
  • 17:05pm – Email sent with additional information for trading the game, depending on what happened during the game. This was reaffirming what is already taught on method one really, and much of what was written I remembered from watching on the video in the members area anyway.
  • 17:54pm – Email sent advising to cashout for the profit (incidentally I had already cashed out as I was watching the game so I knew what was needed).
  • 18:11pm – Email sent advising of the profit that everyone should have made. Here is a section of that email:

first daisho profit

I think these emails also help to consolidate what you are learning on the Daisho programme, and reaffirms what you should already know when trading live, or even practising.

Excellent start.

10th August 2017

Another trade given out by Tony today which was a Method 1 Trade Selection 7.00pm FC Basel v Grasshoppers Zurich

10% profit made inside 30 minutes from the kick off.

10_percent_on_daisho

The same as yesterday, all emails were sent out beforehand advising on the game credentials, then subsequent emails explaining exactly how to trade the game, and what to do in the event of a recovery, a cash out email, and then the profit made email – which you would already know as you would have been trading the game yourself if you are a member.

Daisho Results Update 19th August 2017

I thought after using the systems in the product for around 2 weeks I would give some insight.

Now, I don’t always have the time to trade due to other commitments, but I have followed and traded some of the selections that Tony himself has recommended, as well as done a fair few trades on the free Betfair system that is offered (Which I really like, and have used a similar system before, so knew it would work, as I said in one of the comments today).

I have traded around 11 trades over the last 2 weeks, a few of them being my own selections, and all of them have made a profit, with the odd recovery needed, which was straight forward.

Over the last 2 days for example, and I won’t give profits, because this will be relative to what stakes you are personally using.

Yesterday, I followed one trade that Tony recommended, and this trade made a 10% profit return.

Today, I have actually completed 4 trades on the free Betfair system, all of them made a profit inside 10 minutes, and I also followed and traded a selection that Tony advised, and this also made a profit.

I mentioned on a comment today to a reader about the standalone free Betfair system, and that I think this system alone is worth the price of the membership to Daisho, and I do think that. £200-£400 profit a month? I think more could be made, as it is largely dependent on how many trades you can do, or have the time to find.

I have a feeling that the promoters have understated this free system, and I suspect they will make more of it on their advertising when the results start coming in from members. A few months worth of profits from that Betfair system alone would pay the entry fee, and that is without even starting on the main systems.

Daisho Results Update 18th September 2017

It has been nearly a month since my last update, and due to work away from this website, I have not done a great deal of trading, but the trades I have done have all resulted in a profit.

I also have to admit that due to my own personal time restraints that I have, for the last month I have mainly used Tony’s own selections which he sends by email, and these have all been profitable.

Just to give you an example I didn’t do any trading at all last week, and started again on Saturday with some trading as I had a free weekend. I followed Tony’s trades, and the following was generated, and emailed out by Tony.

Here is the email Tony sent out on Sunday morning to all members regarding Saturday’s trades.

Saturday 16th August trades:

tony_emails_daisho_members_Saturday

As you can see from above, a 29% ROI from the trades given on the system for the day’s trades. The recovery was very easy to complete also.

Sunday 17th August:

There was also a selection given out on Sunday between Doncaster v Scunthorpe, which resulted in a 5% ROI inside the first 9 minutes of the match which was good and meant I could watch some football I actually wanted to watch 🙂  (not that you have to watch the matches, as you don’t!, I usually do though if I can).

Overall, an excellent weekend as you can see above. I have still been using the standalone Betfair system with consistent success.

Based on early testing, and results on both the free Befair system and the trades completed so far on the main systems, I can recommend this product.

 

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Structured Data, Review
Title: Tony Langley`s Daisho Trading System Review – Another Masterclass From Tony?
Reviewed by Daniel Carter & Researcher on May 25
Rating: 4.5
Summary: Tony Langley’s Daisho Football Trading Course Review
Description: We know Tony Langley’s products very well, and we also know that he still has the majority of students still on his last course, which closed. A popular trader and trainer, and he now has a brand new product called the Daisho Football Trading System, which if his last course is anything to go by ‘could’ be interesting.

As always, when a Betfair product comes along, we are always interested in how well it can do, and if the systems being taught can make a profit for those concerned.

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168 Comments

  • Frankwood says:

    Would I be right in saying the ‘standalone’ product is match betting?

    • Tim Lowe says:

      Hello Frankwood,

      No I’m afraid that would not be right!!

      There is NO matched betting, free bets or in fact anything involving a bookmaker involved. It is purely a Betfair system.

      The standalone product is a very simple variant of the main Daisho system. We decided to give it away as a gift for coming because whilst it is very effective, the returns are not as great as the other methods of the main system so, whilst good in its own right you cannot earn as much as you can with the other Daisho methods.

      Tim Lowe

  • Andy says:

    Hello. I’m a member of Football hedging system, I’m not planning to buy Daisho, but can I have this £500 a month folder system? Thank you.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Andy, I would suspect that such a communication would be better served directly with the vendor by email rather than in an open thread that is discussing a different product.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Ray says:

    Tony’s a top guy and knows his stuff. Wish I could invest in this one too, but have spent enough in 12 months on trading systems. Sure this will be decent though!

  • salah says:

    So what the diffrence between the Football hedging system and this new product ?

  • Cliff says:

    Can you please let me know if Tim’s going to release the ‘Daisho System’ on DVD & if so – when?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Cliff, Tim Lowe sent an email around 10 days ago I think it was, saying that there are currently no plans to make the system into a home study course.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • clive says:

    Looks great. As A guy who got his first hedging method. Works great.

    This looks like for people who missed out the last adventure.

    As stated in review this product not for folks who have hedging method.

  • Lenny says:

    I cant make the dates available Dan.

    Will he do other ones later in the year
    or is this limited and will shut down?
    Whats his plans on this?

    Thanks Dan,love your site,and all you do.

  • Tim Lowe says:

    Hi Lenny

    Next week I’ll be announcing another, I’m sorry to say, final date in July.

    Tim Lowe

  • James says:

    Hi,
    Any idea when you will have reviewed this?
    I would be interested but,would find it hard to part with the money only for a well written sales page.
    Would need to know genuinely how long will it take to be making these kind of sums, also 97% is excellent,but as we know with trading this isn’t always the case,the losing percentage is somehow recoverable with this system.
    Would be very interested in a review of this before committing.

    Thanks

    • Daniel says:

      Hello James, just back-checking through emails in the database you already have the football hedging methods you said last August?

      If so, then you will know that the sums quoted are based on compounding.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • James says:

    Thanks Daniel,
    Yes I did get football hedging, compounding profits is fine if the recoveries can be completed successfully every time

  • Graham Green says:

    Hi, so reading the above. The people that bought the hedging system probably do not need to buy this. I didn’t so I am interested here, but wanted to be clear if this was the previous system that has has been refined or it is something new.
    Cheers
    Graham

  • Daniel Nkem Igwe says:

    Please Daniel can you find out From Tim how some one who is not resident in the UK can get access to the Daisho system. I am currently residing in Nigeria

  • Graham says:

    Hi,
    I was wondering if there are any further updates following the first seminars having taken place.
    Cheers
    Graham

  • Dave Whitehead says:

    Hi Graham i went on the course and it is superb.Tony is a superb teacher and his Product is brilliant. I am just learning the process at the moment and will report back in a few weeks .

  • Jhon says:

    How long would it take for a £300 starting bank to hit the £2000 a week mark?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Jhon, there is an image on the review which explains the compounding of profits and timescales.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Jimmy says:

    Any more feedback from the seminars so far ? Would love more information ?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello ‘Jimmy’, I notice you have created 2 accounts with different names. Please refrain from doing so, or all your comments will be removed.

      I have let this comment stand, but most of the workshop attendees are probably off making it work for them instead of looking for websites to report on, that is generally what happens.

      Early days as they say, but based on the original product ‘hedging’ the feedback and reviews were fantastic and as this is essentially the same product albeit enhanced and easier to use, I expect the feedback to be very similar.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Joe says:

    I would like this, and try it out, but I am not able to attend the seminar. What other options are there for me?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Joe, currently no other option as it is advertised as a workshop, and there is currently only one live workshop left.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    I have been on the first course for Daisho system and it was excellent!! Tony is such a brilliant guy and really smart. Started learning straightaway and several hundred pounds up already.

    • Jay says:

      Hi Alan,

      How different is it to the previous course? I think that there were six strategies in that one, so how does it compare?

      Thanks,

      Jay

    • Mark says:

      Hi Alan,

      What sort of games are you trading on with the season at a close. Does the system look at obscure leagues?

      Thanks

      Mark

    • Michael Leah says:

      Hello Alan,

      That’s interesting, how did you manage that?

      Tony recommends a £300 starting bank and to only stake 5% of bank to start with, so 50p should be about your starting profits per trade.

      Would be interested to hear your approach, especially as it looks like you need a lengthy period of practice for the recovery methods until you are ready to use real money.

      Thanks

    • Daniel says:

      Hello everyone, don’t forget that there is a bonus system that states can earn as much as £500 in the first month, but maybe Alan can confirm.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • James says:

    Alan, that is interesting that you have just went on the course and are already a few hundred pounds in profit. Having been a member of Football hedging, there is a a lot of time spent practicing the methods and only when you have done so should you trade with real stakes, and in the ‘off season’with major leagues not back til August.
    This course must be completely different to the Football Hedging course.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello James, please see my comment above, and the product was clearly advertised as being the same, but enhanced principles as FHS, but easier and more defined.

      Also there is football daily around the world, and as long as there is liquidity then there should be options. I know on the original football hedging the selections came in daily even after the end of the UK football season last year.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • James says:

    I appreciate that there is games daily albeit more obscure with less liquidy. I meant that it must be different to FH in that very little training/practice is needed before making several hundred. Even with the methods refinded etc there is still a considerable learning period needed and in this time of the year would take even longer to get the right games to practice on.Iv had FH over a year and still practice

    • Daniel says:

      Hello James, As I mentioned earlier it is very possible that Alan is using the Betfair method mentioned on the promotional materials whilst he is learning the main methods, and I suspect that is probably the case.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Hi Jay,

    There are 6 methods but I found it all quite understandable for the first 2 methods and so got on with it after practising with Time Machine on recoveries, which are easier than I realised, but much easier to do.

  • Alan says:

    Mark, you need lower liquidity than any other system I have used before and so even though the UK is closed you can still find enough games. The biggest bonus is not losing money.

  • Alan says:

    Michael, that is correct but I was on the first workshop and I have purchased previously some of Tony’s hedging so a bit more familiar. That said I was trading with a £300 bank and he actually says you can use up to 10% of bank on a trade. Traded so far 3.5 weeks and 64 trades using compounding with bank growth now at 69%.

    • Michael Leah says:

      Thanks Alan,

      Just wondered why you would buy up Daisho for such an amount of money when Tony himself has confirmed that the Daisho system is the simplified trading methods he’d already developed and uploaded to the football hedging system platform?

      Seems a little strange to then go and buy Daisho when you already had the methods anyway.

      Unless you bought it solely to find out about the ‘game of two halves’ trade which is now not to be released until next year to current football hedging customers.

      Thanks

  • Alan says:

    Dan, you get a free strategy that is very good some of the people I went with have made money with that already as well, but it is smaller amounts, also Tim Lowe said that guarantee was extended for the £500 for 3 months and the monthly support payment was scrapped.

  • Alan says:

    James, some of the methods are similar, but simplified and you need lower liquidity, so plenty of games even now. Plus I said that hedging is not new to me and so I was able to start probably quicker than some although met a couple of people who have bought previously like me and so are more familiar and Tony trades all year around anyway.

    • James says:

      Cheers Alan,
      I didn’t realise you were a FH member, I am also. I myself was interested in Daisho until it was confirmed it is just a simplified version of FH which we already have. What made you want to get Daisho?

  • Lenny says:

    Like james.

    Would also like to know.

  • Alan says:

    Hi Michael, quite simply l am reinvesting, as although l new that we were getting the methods l have done very well from football hedging and can only see things getting better for me spending 2 days with Tony answering my questions and stuff showing him how well l have done.

  • Alan says:

    James, same response as Michael done well with football hedging so reinvesting for 2 days with Tony as worth it.

  • Alan says:

    I have just received a mail stating Daisho football trading system is now a Home Study Course.

    What an excellent idea.

  • Alan says:

    With the new home study course does Tony still offer weekly selections like he did before?

  • Alan says:

    Its been nearly 2 months since I went to the 2 day event and Tony is still sending out selections for free.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Alan, thanks for confirming that, it does not state on the website, but it states that support is offered included in an exclusive support members area where you will have access to Tony, and even private tuition if required.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Sorry to beat you to it Dan.

  • Mark says:

    Hi, just wondering? If this is a zero risk strategy, why would you only bet with any % of your bank?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Mark, because it is so that the overall trade can be catered for, as you are taking more than single positions per trade, so that you do not get into the situation of exhausting the betting bank.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Douglas says:

    It would have been good if Tim and Tony offered a discounted price offer to his existing Football Hedging System customers.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Douglas, I personally don’t see why Waverley would have to do that, it is a different product, but you (and hedging customers) may want to check your emails from Tony.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • John says:

    Does that Daisho system need you to be trading in play or is it a set and forget before kick off?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello John, The free system is set and forget but the other modules are trading in play mostly depending on what happens in the games, most of the wins come quickly but some require a little more action being taken depending on what happens in the games. I have read most of the course now and have seen this for myself. Remember it is not just a system, there are 6 modules of systems so they need to be learned and applied depending on the games being offered.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Is the stop loss still being used in this method?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello again, Alan. This is not mentioned from what I have read so far, but remember the whole process has been simplied. I have seen the last course also, and this one is definitely explained in a simplier way, and all the variations of protection and profit retention are the same, with added extras.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Trevor Farrow says:

    Hi
    May i ask can this work on any league in the world and also can it work on international matches, world cup etc?
    Also how many selcetions a week would the modules produce if you were to give it 100% of your time?
    Finally does the free system use betfair only and is it also risk free?
    Many thanks

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Trevor, Yes, if the criteria for the matches is met, then any league and tournament can be used as it is more to do with the criteria being met than the type of game.

      This is why when the original course was launched, it was done out of the football season, and Tony was still sending selections almost daily.

      The amount of selections will depend on if the criteria was met. The page states about 7 a week on the selection side when Tony was sending them, but of course when you know the criteria yourself this could be much more.

      Is the Betfair system you get risk free? It is not risk free because there is a 93% success rate given by Tony, so the risk of losing bets is 7%, but obviously on the reverse side 93%.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • steve says:

    Hi

    Did you do a review of Tony’s FHS system and if so is it possible to forward it to me. Do you know if any of your members reviewed it

    thx Steve

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Steve, Yes, we did review it, and there is a link right at the top of this review page, and there were quite a few members who joined in on the comments regarding their results.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alma says:

    Hi
    I am very interested in Daisho system but…the cost is too expensive for me. Maybe with other payment option…

  • Brian Clarke says:

    I am interested in this. I already have about £2000 in a betfair account – after treading carefully, could I enter at a higher level and earn more once I start
    I have been “gubbed” from most bookies accounts due to arbitrage activity so this is of interest to me

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Brian, I would advise following what Tony suggests and start with the £300 starting bank and then using your profits to compound the betting bank. Tony mentions a lot on the course about paper trading and not running before you can walk.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

      • Brian says:

        Thanks for the reply Dan, cutting aside the £3000 per week bravado, is it realistic to think you could earn, once you have learnt the nuances for a couple of months, say £1000 to £1500 per month, as that is my goal
        I am used to betfair trading and would expect to pick this up quickly as I have some history of hedging in the financial markets. I am a mad football fan, so Saturdays are out as I am watching it then, but I could trade at most other times. I know it will require discipline and following the rules. Can you recommend on this basis

  • Brian says:

    see my comment above, I meant £1000 per week not month, as that would create a full-time income being tax free

    • Daniel says:

      Hello again, Brian. I am sure most people in the country would like a £1k a week income, as that would put them into the top 10% of earners in the country 🙂

      Realistically, I trade myself, and anything is possible with time, but the way Tony explains it is that as long as you are compounding your profits, and not taking them out of the pot, then the profits can be made on those levels.

      I think the largest temptation for many would be taking the profits out and spending them instead of allowing the compounding effect to take place.

      As you say discipline is essential in trading, and when you consider that Tony has not lost a single trade in the 2 years this site has been reviewing his products, then I don’t think there are any reasons to dispute what you suggest.

      Most people would be highly satisfied with £1k a month instead of a week.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • steve says:

    I have read through the FHS reviews and these daisho reviews and it looks like for FHS tony emails you what to trade and when to cash out etc and also that the recoveries are tricky to master I would like to be able to trade exactly from tony to start with so my questions are;
    does tony send the same emails as for FHS
    does tony send you details on how to recover
    is recovering easier?
    are stops still used if you don’t want to worry about recovering

    hope these are clear

    does tony tell how to recover if needed

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Steve, if you see the latest update to the review, you will see what was sent yesterday.

      This is a different product to FHS, so I would go by what is advertised as to what is contained. The emails were not advertised but there was an email sent out (from what I remember) saying that emails will be sent for a few weeks to help people get started.

      The crux of it though is that you should be learning the methods yourself from the course; the emails just being helpful for the first few weeks including what to do to recover.

      There is a large part of the course regarding recovery and what to do, I have watched most of the course and methods now.

      I have seen both products, and Daisho is not just a rebranded FSH, it seems as I said last week to be far more streamlined from what I can see.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

      • steve says:

        Daniel thx for the reply. It seems that understanding the recoveries is the most important thing. how easy is it to learn the recoveries.

        • Daniel says:

          Hello again, Steve. I would say that you are correct. Most of the trades should be straight forward as you will see from the two trades I did myself yesterday, and the day before.

          There will be some trades though that need recovery and this is covered in detail on the course. I wouldn’t say it is difficult, just calculations really, and the calculator and the instructions are supplied.

          Tony does say to practice this though, in fact a lot of the course is dedicated to paper trading so that when recovery is required on the minority of games you encounter, you are comfortable with the process.

          Best Wishes,

          Dan

          • Alma says:

            Hi,

            After reading all the information. I suspect the methods work in 2 different markets. One of them is the principal, for example, match odd market, and the other work to protect the posible loss in he principal, for example, the correct scores market. So, if the goals are in the incorrect side, you will need the recovery plan. And the recovery plan must be very very very difficult. And I think is almost impossible dont lose money when the goals goes in the incorrect team and are very often.

            I see Tony send emails with the time to cash out to make a profit, this happens with the recovery plan is not necesary.

            When the match need the recovery plan, Tony send the instructions with the steps to follow?

            Thanks

            Sorry for my english

  • steve says:

    sorry I have asked the same question about recovery twice

  • leon says:

    will be good to see bet fair profit an d lost or real proof last 6 month last 18 month …let see him pay the 20% (over 5 k profit tax to betfair)
    ..any 1 can clime few can give real proof .
    cheers
    Leon

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Leon, Tony Langley shows his profit and loss right the way through his courses, and did so for 20 solid months on his last product. Infact on the very first video before entering the members area Tony shows live profit and loss from his Betfair account backing up the claims without any losses.

      It is the first thing that new customers see before they decide to join and access the contents. It is at this point that you can change your mind, so it is shown there.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • leon says:

    so i need to spend 1300 pounds to see this proof ? can we see this proof before we spent 1300 pounds ?
    cheers
    Leon

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Leon, I am just writing a review about the product from what I find.

      Some aspects I am sharing as part of my personal experience of the membership are not even advertised, so please base any buying decision from what is shown, or not shown on the sales page should you decide to go ahead, or not, as with any buying decision really.

      All the proof is there, and I simply answered your question.

      Best wishes,

      Dan

  • clive says:

    The old method hedge is truly amazing.Im sure this will be better. changed my life. Cant wait for your review. Tony customer service is second to none. He is with you Thanks dan for all your work.

  • Stuart says:

    Hi Daniel,
    Can I ask which package for home study you took? I noticed that the monthly support is £199 per month,for the Gold Package, which obviously makes the overall cost of the course way more, should you take 12 months support.
    I understand it is possible to cancel the support once you feel you are totally comfortable with the system. In your experience, do you feel it would be necessary to continue receiving support?
    Should you choose to cancel support, is the system fully independently workable, by that I mean, would you loose access to any software that would be required to make selections, or that something you can do for yourself?
    For the record, I am a very experienced football trader on Betfair.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Stuart, you will have to decide which package suits you really.

      The support also will be a personal thing, but it is Tony you have the personal support with, so up to you really how much you think you would need.

      The systems though are fully independent, because once you know them you know them, and all the extras given, calculators, etc. again, once you have them you have them, it is the support you would be paying for, everything else you would already have.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Stuart says:

    Thanks Dan,
    That is really helpful information. Much appreciated.

  • Alan says:

    Great to ser the email advice Tony is sending out.

    Is this part of the monthly support for 12 months or is it just included when you sign up without the support?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello again, Alan. The emails are not advertised that I can see, but I am sure I did receive an email when I signed up to say that the emails will be for the first few weeks to help members. The onus will obviously be on you to learn them systems that is why they are given on the study course.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Also how many methods are there that Tony teaches on the course?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Alan, It clearly states this on the review, there are 6 systems, plus the free Betfair system.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Brian Clarke says:

    Clive, you seem to be endorsing the old Hedging system – you say it has changed your life. For the benefit of the rest of us who are obviously hoping this works before paying £1300+ can you confirm you can recommend it, and it does work from your experience?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Brian, just to chip in in case Clive does not respond in a timely fashion. I seriously wouldn’t base a buying decision on one person’s comment (I never do myself), but I would think it is clear what Clive is saying, isn’t it? The reference is to the old system that Daisho is based around, but made more simple, I have access to both the old and the new and it is simpler from what I can see.

      The proof is also there in the members area.

      I am fairly active on this thread because so many readers are sending me emails via the site asking similar questions, so hopefully by answering here will cut that down as my time is limited, and I don’t want to lock the thread like we have had to do with other products in the past.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Brian says:

    Thanks Dan, as I am sure other people will agree. It is always nice to hear from an un-related third party that something works. Does not mean it will work for everyone of course, but positive news is always good

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Brian, not a problem.

      You are right though, nothing works for everyone, I still get emails from readers who say matched betting does not work, when the reality is it’s the easiest money anybody could ever make, they still dispute it though, so I politely let them agree with themselves 🙂

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Hello Dan,

    I’m now 8 weeks in from my 2 day Daisho workshop and I have to say that this is by far the best product I have ever bought period.

    I have spent thousands of pounds probably about £30k buying crap that does not work, but this does and the recovery is no where near as hard to learn as I was led to believe when I was reading about it.

    If you remember I bought football hedging and have done well and so invested in the opportunity to spend 2 days with Tony Langley and it was worth every penny.

    I have recovered the cost of the 2 days plus about 3 pounds short of £5k profit.

    Thank you for your honest feedback on this site as I am very excited for my future.

    Cheers Alan

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Alan, Yes I remember your comments on the Hedging product, well done in your success and thanks for your feedback.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Jay says:

    I ordered the home study version a few weeks back but have not received the written manuals. They now say it’s going to be a few more weeks before the manuals are sent. Seems to me that the product wasn’t quite ready?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Jay, I don’t think a written manual was even advertised on the sales page, it was for those that attended the workshop (I got the same email as you did), so it is just an extra, and the systems are in the videos anyway.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

      • Jay says:

        The sales material describes the manuals several times. This is confirmed on the order forms where the product is described as ‘Comprehensive written instruction manuals supported by online members area etc’

        The issue is that under the consumer rights acts they cannot start counting the days of the 14 day cooling off period until all aspects of the product have been provided to the customer.

        • Daniel says:

          Hello Jay, OK, I stand corrected, as I just went straight to the video content when I joined. Tony’s last course never had anything written sent, so just looking at the sales page again you are correct about manuals 🙂

          Although manuals could be online or offline. Just to edit that, I would be surprised if any written manual is any different to the online manuals in the videos, as it looks like Tony is going through the manuals online in the videos.

          Best Wishes,

          Dan

        • Tim Lowe says:

          Hello Jay

          The written manuals are indeed provided verbatim online so anybody who chooses to purchase has immediate and full access to everything.

          The product was ready as clearly we had already completed a series of live workshops and people here have given positive feedback on those. The manuals are the same manuals as the workshop attendees received.

          What actually happened is that we sold our stock of manuals very quickly which would not ordinarily be an issue but August is a month where people like printers suddenly announce they are closed for holidays so we had a short term supply issue.

          However, you have access to the entire product in digital form and always have had.

          In reality we will not send anybody the printed manual until after either they have clicked to continue with the training or 14 days have elapsed.

          This is because any cooling off period automatically ends when you receive the manual. This works in the same way that opening the packaging of software means you can no longer cancel your order.

          So here the process is that you order and have 14 days to change your mind provided you have not accessed the product. This is a peculiarity of information products, software and certain services. If we were talking about, for example, window frames, you would be correct to say that you have a cooling off period which starts when the last window frame is delivered but with information you lose that right when anything at all is delivered unless the vendor chooses to give you extra rights.

          In our case, during that cooling off period you are free to watch the demonstration as much as you wish and still cancel, however if you wish to actually receive the training materials then you click to continue with the training and then you gain immediate access to all digital content, thereby waiving your right to cancel (although you still have the 90 day money back guarantee in terms of performance of the system).

          If you do nothing for 14 days your right to cancel elapses, so we send your manual either when you click to end your cooling off period or after 14 days have elapsed. If we did it any other way then by us posting you the manual and you opening it, you could inadvertently end your cooling off period.

          Tim Lowe

  • Richard says:

    Hi Alan, you are absolutely right, this is the best I have ever seen, so how long did you practice the recoveries before you played with Real money. I am trying it for a week now but still need more time to learn this because it is not that easy but this is all new for me..best investment ever !! Richard

  • Alan says:

    Hello Richard,

    I had some experience with recoveries through football hedging, which was harder but this was for a good reason.

    So I spent about a week solid recovering but taking up lots more in advance and then using the calculator which is excellent and very helpful.

    I am a very happy man.

    Cheers

  • Chris says:

    Hi Alan, thanks for your honest appraisal of this product. I am also a football hedging member and found the recoveries tricky enough to master. without going into details would you say recovery in the Daisho system is more straightforward?

  • Jennifer says:

    hi everyone been reading through some of the comments.
    Looks and sounds amazing. Does this come with a guarantee. I know its a silly question just its nice to know if theres a guarantee with this and what the guarantee covers. thank you

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Jennifer, if you read the sales page you will see there is quite a large section covering the guarantees on the product.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

      • Jennifer says:

        thank you daniel think im going to buy it i have had a read through the guarantee and not really sure what it all means. Says i have to trade up to 3 times a week with real money and thats ok. Just what if i dont understand trading straight away as trading seems hard to do as im a beginner. thank you

  • Jennifer says:

    hi this daisho looks better each time i read through it and is there any way i can contact the creator of this to ask him a question regarding the guarantee to put my mind at rest before placeing my order. thank you

    • Daniel says:

      Hello again, Jennifer,

      I have emailed you directly the contact details you are asking for.

      Basically they are stating that the systems work if you actually use them, and follow the instructions as laid out, and that if you don’t use them then obviously they will not work for you, which makes sense when you think about it 🙂

      In my opinion? It is to avoid those who simply ‘cannot be bothered to even try’, and is a policy I am inclined to agree with.

      Email on it’s way to you.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

      • Jennifer says:

        thank you Daniel i have emailed you back as well to say thank you. I have contacted the company through the contact details and i have not received a reply back and its been a few hours i am just wondering if their systems might be down although i will give them until tomorrow. I want to try this system so i am eager to get started with it. thank you again daniel.

        • Daniel says:

          Hello again, Jeffifer, could be a few reasons really, spam, slightly busy with orders, etc. I have sent you the phone number.

          Best Wishes,

          Dan

  • Mike Ford says:

    Hi Daniel, looking forward to buying and trying this system, one comment said about Betfair 20% tax on over x5k,is this correct and if so over what time period, please can you clarify? thanks in advance, Mike.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Mike, It is not as straight forward as a %, it is more complex than that as you get credits as well depending on usage, but Betfair commissions means you are making good money, and should be seen as a business expense really.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Raymond says:

    Hi,

    finally decided to purchase this system. I wanted to get on FHS before,but it was already closed for entry.
    This time I am on board.First impression is that there is a lot of material to go through, but I am also looking at this as learning a new skill to make money/business.
    For the price I paid for I also expect nothing less..
    Are there any other traders who got on board are trading full time due to this system?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Raymond, to be fair most early adopters are probably not even searching for reviews anymore if they have the original product, as much as I like to think this website is irresistible 🙂

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Ken says:

    Hi Daniel,
    Been deciding whether to buy this or not and came across reviews for Tony’s FHS. Couple of questions:-

    1. Can you trade more than one game at a time or would that be too confusing if changes have to be made? Can you thus only trade if you can follow a game?

    2. Some people were saying up to £2K was required for recoveries with FHS – is it the same for Daisho?

    Thanks,
    Ken.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Ken, On the free Betfair system that comes with the package, as long as the criteria is met, then I would say you can trade as many as you wish.

      On the main systems, I would do one at a time, as you do need to follow the game. Most of the time the profits are taken inside minutes.

      To your second question, it is all relative. Tony advises a £300 starting bank, and a certain percentage per trade, and only once do I remember last time was there a near exhaustion of betting bank, which was on a game that Tony himself claimed should not have been a selection; a blip if you like.

      Subsequently Tony rounded down the amount staked (% wise) following that, and I didn’t hear anything else since, so the bottom line is follow the betting bank and stake % as Tony instructs.

      The whole idea is to follow exactly what Tony does, because the proof is there in the member area that he has not lost a single trade which is what we are all trying to replicate.

      I think I have done around 7 trades this week, only one short recovery needed the rest were quick and easy profits.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Tony says:

    Hello,
    The fixing of %stake was done in fhs or in Daisho? Also does it mean sometimes we would be using the whole bank to recover, this doesnt seem frightening when using 300stakes but then If im to be using a 10k bank then It will require alot of nerves no?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Tony, the answer to your question is both. And remember as you move forward when compounding your profits, then you are in effect trading with winnings/profit, and you also have the option of not recovering at all, which still produces a profit, so the decision is down to you really.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Gary says:

    Hi Dan, I am very interested in the Daisho system and have found your thread here most informative )) what are your thoughts please on how difficult or easy the Daisho method is to master !?
    I have read previously on another review for FHS that “ we cannot substantiate other reviews elsewhere “
    However I see now with the Daisho method there is now a “ stunningly clever simplified formula “ which I believe, now includes a stop loss rather than a recovery method … Also the sales page, key feature # 2 says “ it’s quick and easy to master “ and elsewhere refers to it being “ so simple “
    If this is the case with Daisho, I am wondering why it is advised the monthly support should be taken up for 12 months !?
    Many thanks, Gary

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Gary, personally I do believe it is simple to master, but everyone is different. A high majority of the trades make a profit inside minutes, then there is a small portion of trades that need recovery, and this is the bit you need to learn.

      Tony provides a calculator to do this, so as long as you can enter the figures like I, and other members have, then you have the answers and solutions you need.

      It needs practice for sure, but doesn’t everything? Then this will give you the confidence that when the recoveries come along you know how to complete them.

      The other aspect is that (and this is not advertised) you can actually decide not to complete any recoveries, and you would still make a profit.

      Those words are mine, but when the original hedging system was in full swing Tony produced a spreadsheet that provided statistics that even if no members completed any recoveries, a very good profit was still made due to the very high success rate of easy trades, compared to trades that required recovery.

      I’d advise you to practice the recoveries though, because obviously more money is made, but what I am saying is that there are options.

      Then you have the free method which is another source of profit.

      If you pick things up in a normal way then I would say you will learn the recoveries without any issue, but again as I say, there are other options too.

      That’s my interpretation of what is in the members area, and after having tried a fair few trades now, both on the free system, and the main systems, all of them have profited so far.

      For example there was a trade today between West Ham and Norwich where the profit was made in less than 10 minutes.

      There was a trade yesterday between Bayern v Leverkusen where a 10% profit return was made in around 20 minutes.

      All these trades are also in the members area as Tony puts them there, which mirrors what I am saying.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • James says:

    Hi Daniel, on the stand alone method there’s no mention of what size of bank is required to make the monthly amounts claimed (£200-£400).do you know how much bank is required for this?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello James, The bank size is not really mentioned, but it also depending on how many bets you make. Difficult to say without giving some of the details away, but based on what Tony advises you are looking at a maximum of needing around £36 in your Betfair account per bet, or trade, and you can do as many or as few as you like. This can also be less if you decide to stake less, so much of the answer regarding betting bank is dependent on what you decide.

      I have done a few so far, and have a 100% success rate. Great little system and the 93% success rate advertised is definitely realistic.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Hi Chris, sorry for the delay but went over to France for a couple of days.

    I find the recoveries on Daisho much easier mainly because of the calculator and even if I make a mistake I find it much easier to resolve.

    Cheers

  • Warren Parks says:

    Dan good review here. On the standalone betfair one is there any way you can give some pointers to how it works? or what it is

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Warren, I am not going to go into any kind of detail on how it works, for obvious reasons. People are paying for it, and it would not be fair.

      What I will say is that it is a very simple system, and works well. A low bank is needed, and it is as close to a set and forget as you will find.

      I actually already used a similar system based around the same principles, so I knew it would work before trying it.

      One thing I will say is that the free Betfair system alone is probably worth the entry fee to this product.

      Some may argue against that, but then again some would argue against paying anything for anything, and then when the course closes they will be asking where they can get it 🙂

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alma says:

    Hi,

    When the match need the recovery plan, Tony send the instructions with the steps to follow?

    Thanks

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Alma, That was one of the very first questions I asked them, and I was informed that the instructions for the trades will be offered for around 6 months so that new members can not only use the instructions when trading, but can also see if their own decisions would have matched Tony’s.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • ian says:

    Hi, before I spend nearly £1300 on this, can you clarify that when a recovery is required, that Tony will send a message/email etc immediately on exactly what to do to recover the situation?

  • Alan says:

    So to confirm are you saying that Tony will send out his selections and recovery instructions for matches in play for 6 months?

    Is this on all 3 membership packages ?

    Also is there an email I can send directly to either Tony’s as I have other specific questions I would like to ask?

  • ian says:

    Hi Daniel, can you clarify/confirm that when a recovery is required that Tony will immediately send a message/email telling you exactly what to do to recover the situation? Thank you.

  • Daniel says:

    Hello, my comment right above the questions answers the three above this. The emails that Tony sends before the games explains what you need to do, including recoveries, and although not advertised I have been told by Waverley that the support before the games will continue for around 6 months to help new members, whilst you are learning the systems. This 6 month additional email support I was informed is for all the packages.

    Best Wishes,

    Dan

  • Graham says:

    Hi

    can this be done at weekends as I work during the day?

  • Rah says:

    Hello,

    I ve just seen this is out I missed the previous version but signed up for the email to kept informed but if one was sent it must have been lost in my junk folder. Now I m intending to get it this but am worried that the opportunity will close before I get my finances in order. Dan do you know if this offer will still be available for the next couple of weeks or if there is a cutoff date? Thanks

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Rah, chances are it will be open a few weeks yet but I have no idea really, the previous product as you rightly stated closed after enough members had joined.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

      • Rah says:

        Thanks for the reply Dan gonna keep my fingers crossed that they stay open long enough for me to join up hopefully this coming week.

  • Tom says:

    As a football hedging member, it’s unfortunate that the standalone betfair system wasn’t added to the football hedging members area, was looking forward to finding out what it was all about.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Tom, it seems the standalone Betfair system is exclusive to Daisho customers, as it is a different product.

      I think it is generous that Tony has given the other methods to FHS members, because again, it is a different product.

      The standalone is very good though.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

    • alma says:

      I dont know why a member of FHS need the standalone Betfair system. FHS promised the same results that the Daisho system. So, why you need a system that “only” promise 400€?
      Its possible you dont make money with FHS?

  • Rich says:

    Do you think the stand alone system would be released for purchase, for those who aren’t ready for the full system, I’m sure there would be interest, cheers

  • Max says:

    The latest info says that Tony has software to automate the process,is this true?

  • clive says:

    Wow max.

    Where did you hear this ?

    Must be a bot for bet angel or something .

  • Jason says:

    Hi Daniel

    Can you talk be through a trade eg starting with £300 how much would you stake ? How much would it returned if it was 10%?

    Don’t you think that £199 is to much for support ?
    How long will the emails be sent daily ?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Jason, based on the £300 starting stake you are using up to and no more than 10% as your starting trades on the selections that you find, or that Tony suggests for you, which to answer your third question are sent for 6 months after joining I was informed.

      The emails came in earlier tonight also, in that Tony explains exactly what you need to do before the game, not during the game. During the game you are advised when to cash out for the profits.

      Earlier this evening there was a trade between Sevilla B v Leonesa and a 9.19% profit was made on the trade.

      Regarding support, not my call really and is subjective as part of the whole package.

      I am just reviewing as I find it. I have not had a losing trade yet since the launch, and I am still practising as well as trading live. Not loads of trades as I have other stuff to do, but I am also receiving a lot of emails about the Daisho from readers, and some other members, as they know we have it, and that this website also reviewed the football hedging product.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Jason says:

    Thanks Daniel,

    How are you mean to make like 9k-12k if you start with £300 bank as I was just trying to work it out so the max 10% on a £300 is £30 so this trade retunes say 10% which is £3 so how do you get to 9k-12k even with compounding u dosent come up to that much.

    How are you getting on with the standalone product is it still 93% ? How many trades can you do a day if you was doing this full time ? Can you use. Compound with this ?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello again, Jason. Don’t underestimate the power of compounding 🙂

      There is a calculator on the FSH review we did which shows you how it can work, albeit not based on this particular product.

      Do a Google search for ISA millionaires as well, to see how compounding can work, and has worked in the real world.

      I have not looked at the sales page for a while but there is a screenshot which shows you how the compounding effect works, and even if you got a fraction of those results due to less activity it would still be good going in my opinion.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Jason says:

    Also can you this be done full time as I’m not working at the moment and would like to do this as my main income how much trade do you think I can do a day if I was doing it full time by myself

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Jason, I would not think about running before you can walk. Trading works for those who dedicate themselves to it, especially if looking to take an income from it. It won’t happen in a couple of weeks.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Eddie says:

    As a football hedging member of nearly 20 months, and a regular poster on the old moremoneyreview thread on FHS, I can say that recoveries are harder than you think. Having been ‘stung’ a couple of times, I left the system on the shelf so to speak. Without giving anything away, the first stage recoveries, even with the simplified approaches (daisho) are pretty straight forward, although 9 times of of 10 you’ll have a gap in the markets. But second stage recoveries, those recoveries that aren’t going your way, now those are difficult.

    I’ve personally made lots of money from ‘arbing’, especially EWS, pumping thousands into several horse racings markets and balancing different accounts to ensure profits. This became easy to me. And yes, like Daniel says, some find it easier than others.

    But I’m sorry, second stage recoveries? You’re on your own to a degree. There are instructions, but Tony likes to take a different approach, fair play to him, he takes risks, and they pay off. But I’ve taken risks using the same methods and been burnt.

    I’ve gone back to the drawing board, I’ve recovered over 20 games on time machine, and some games are almost impossible to recover using one of the prescribed approaches.

    I’m still hopeful, I still dream of earning £2k a week doing this full time, and I have invested a significant amount of time into it, especially the recoveries using time machine. Granted, I have had a few light bulb moments recently, and they have helped, but anyone who has ran with this after just two weeks will undoubtedly get burnt.

    ‘Don’t pick up a golf club and expect to be tiger woods’

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Eddie, I think your last statement speaks volumes in that nobody will pick this up inside a couple of weeks, and also that everybody will generate different results to a degree.

      Most people who purchase products like this, or any other will not post their results, or progress which is a shame, because as a website we do receive a lot of emails from readers we have communicated with over the years, and even when I ask if they would like to post their results live on the site, they are reluctant to do so.

      I remember a few instances on the FHS members would post to be hit with a barrage of cynicism, but the reality is most who succeed with something just go off and do it.

      I hope Daisho works out better for you, as trading is a journey as we know.

      I personally practiced recoveries a lot for when they were going to happen and don’t have any issue with them, and I chose a fair few of my own trades.

      Also, a profit is made without using recoveries, as was proven on FSH last time out, which I would think is ideal to start with whilst learning recoveries.

      Don’t forget, traders who profit this way have done it for years, so again, referring to your last statement, it is not going to be picked up overnight by everyone as we are all different.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Alan says:

    Hello Eddie, I have been on FHS for just over 2 years, but did not start making any decent money until at least 18 months in.

    When Daisho came out I paid from my profits to get to spend 2 days with Tony as this would be a benefit to me and worth investing some of my profits into.

    Daisho has really helped me with recoveries as I take up more and I have since June not had any problems with recovering games, which is massive for me.

    I have made this year so far at least £39,000, which has increased due to Daisho and more money than my main job.

    I do not agree that Tony takes risks, as this has not been my experience, but asking him questions through the ticket service has been really worth it.

    This may not be for everyone and I have been lucky enough to meet the man himself, which just made a massive difference hearing him talk and he even spent all night in the bar with us all buying drinks and even bought us all dinner just a really genuine bloke.

    Anyway I hope that you can progress and certainly get in touch with Tony if you need any further help as he really seems to enjoy helping people, which it very refreshing and I am sure that his share of the money from his systems is very small considering the company promoting always takes most of the money as they have the list.

    Cheers

    Alan

  • Daniel says:

    Hello All, can I please ask that comments be kept on track. This is the Daisho trading systems this review refers to, not the previous Football Hedging System. As a website we have access to both, and there are differences, so please only comment about the subject at hand, and the product being reviewed if you wish to comment.

    We all know what happened to a similar review website, that attracted much trolling activity, spurious postings, and unrelated comments, which subsequently lead to the demise of that website.

    This will NOT be allowed to happen here as clearly mentioned on the about us page.

    We review products and services here, it is not a place to vent about other products, previous products, or personal vendettas, and anybody who does not like that is free to start their own review website.

    Now let’s get back on topic and see what makes money, which is what we are all here for 🙂

    Thank you

    Dan

  • Keven says:

    Hello Dan — I’m interested in this product and the feedback seems solid and promising. You say that ” Also, a profit is made without using recoveries ” Can you give a basic estimate of what percentage of bets require recovery, so I get a sense as to what the extra time involved would be. Thanks ……….

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Kevin, similar to my comment below, far too early in Daisho’s life span to give such stats on my own trades, but please read the message below.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Kenny says:

    Hi Dan,

    This is all new to me can you explain what a recovery is and, if possible, give an example?

    Any idea how many trades you would need to place to make £1K per week? Also, how much bank you would need?

    Do the instructions take a while to read through i.e. is it a thick book and are there a lot of videos to go through?

    Thanks for your time.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Kenny, yes there is a lot of info to go through. Mostly videos which explain the strategies.

      The bank advised is between £300 and £1000 but I would say start with just the £300 advised and compound which is what they also advise and build your bank that way using profits made.

      Don’t think you will be making £1K a week after watching the videos for an hour, as you won’t. A lot of practicing the systems and recoveries are needed to make this work.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • John Watson says:

    I am also interested in this point. Does it mean (a) that each individual trade is profitable even if recovery is not entered into or (b) that the total profit from the number of wins less the losses from losing trades where no recovery is attempted still ends up in overall profit? or something completely different? Thanks.

    • Daniel says:

      Hello, (b) is correct on my own stance on it, and that is based on the FSH results over around 20 months that were given to FSH members at the time.

      It is too early in the Daisho launch to give such stats for this, but as much of the systems are similar, I would state the same really.

      Ideally though you would learn the recoveries as that is what trading is all about, and more profit is definitely made once recoveries are applied.

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

  • Max says:

    One more question. if you use a £30 stake how much do you need for recovery approx. after all if you cannot lose why not 50% of the bank?

    • Daniel says:

      Hello Max, I think you have almost answered your own question in that post. Although the amount depends on what happens in the actual game, which is why Tony suggest using no more than 10% of any bank you use. This also answers the second part of your question 🙂

      Best Wishes,

      Dan

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